3.2 & 3.3: But When She Was Bad...She Was Horrid

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3.2 & 3.3: But When She Was Bad...She Was Horrid

Post by PEIsland22 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:07 pm

This episode was a great favorite of mine since the first time I saw it. At the end of part 1, I could hardly wait to see part 2 the next evening. Anyone else enjoy this episode?

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Post by oldfashionedgirl » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:50 am

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Yes, I really liked this episode! It reminded me of an old classic Disney adventure movie. It was fun to see Gus and Sara off the Island, too but my heart broke for poor Gus to have such a father!

My only criticism is that I thought the attempted drowning was a bit too much. It made Jo way too bad in my opinion!
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Post by Tomasz » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:52 pm

I think that also.
Jo wasn't very nice to Hetty which actually surprised me...Hetty didn't react as much as I would expect her to. This was unlike her..But apart from that It was great..

Hetty is my favourite character though,
I love RTA

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Re: 3.2 & 3.3: But When She Was Bad...She Was Horrid

Post by weatherman15 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:34 am

Sure Hetty was out of character for much of the two part episode, but it was a result of feeling that her stern nature drove Sara to insanity. I think Hetty being out of character made the episode even funnier. But don't forget, she had her moments where she just couldn't resist being herself (such as cleaning Jo Pitts' mouth out with soap). I agree that the drowning attempt was a bit much, but when Hetty emerged from that lake, that's one of the funniest and most memorable moments in the series for me! I also thought the double-take Hetty and Olivia made when the identical girls were revealed was pretty funny. Plus, the expression on Gus Pike's face when the ladies were discussing what to do with Jo Pitts was priceless. Just a few of the moments that I enjoyed...

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Post by hannikan » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:27 pm

This has never been a favorite episode of mine but it does have some entertaining parts. I think maybe it was too over the top for me.
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Post by Marina » Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:42 am

I have watched this episode only once. It was way too over the top for me! It`s actually one of my least favourite episodes.

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Post by hannikan » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:24 pm

Hetty is what made the episode entertaining to me. Her tiptoeing around Sara/Jo because she thought she'd made Sara lose her mind was funny. I agree that Jo trying to drown Hetty was a little much. It did end up being funny when Hetty crawled out but prior to that it was upsetting. Otherwise Sarah's Jo was funny, but the whole Sara finding her identical match was a little too ridiculous to me. I also don't like Best Laid Plans with Jasper and his identical cousin. My criticism of this episode had nothing to do with there being no romance. There's lots of episodes I like that have no romance in them.
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Post by Revisiting » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:15 am

Revisiting this series as an adult, I'm seeing a huge theme in the Gus character: He's an adult in the world of children. Every time you see him, he's with the children, a head and a half taller, sometimes advising them, but among them. Because of that, he winds up treating them as much more mature than they are.
It comes to a head for me in this episode, when Sara's convincing him to let her go to the mainland with him. He stares at her, thinking desperately. The right thing to do is bring her home. The right thing to do is go help his mentor. Caught between the two, he treats her like a more responsible party than she is and takes her along. He regrets it, I think, throughout the episode and long before the journey starts going bad.
It's a new and interesting facet to his story, to me.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find videos of the series that I can afford/borrow from the library, so I'm stuck with what I can find here and there on the internet and my vague memories (I was 14 when the show ended). Sometime I will find or borrow these and remind myself of the other Gus episodes to see if I can put together a really coherent personality from them.

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Post by hannikan » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:24 pm

That is an interesting perspective on Gus. He is definitely a young man who sees himself as a caretaker of the children in the early seasons. Even Hetty expects him to be, Alec also asks him to look after them at times. He's supposed to be about 3 years older than Felicity therefore he's about 5 years older than Sara and Felix. I always thought that Gus didn't bring Sara home because there wasn't time since he needed to get to Ezekiel. He tried to tell her to go back but she wouldn't so I think he felt like his hands were tied. If he made it too angry she might just take off on her own and that would be more dangerous. At least if she came with him, he thought, he could watch out for her. Actually as far as Sara's maturity, she was always portrayed as an adult in a child's body. I find that a bit annoying at times and not very realistic especially given her pampered upbringing. But these episodes clearly show that she is not as mature, esp with regard to taking care of herself in the real world, as she likes to think.
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Jo Pitts seemed so different from Sara Stanley

Post by Saralicity » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:00 am

They had me going for quite some time. I wasn't sure that Jo Pitts was being played by Sarah Polley. She had such different mannerisms. Jo Pitts moved her hand in a manner that I did not see possible from Sara Stanley. I couldn't swear Jo Pitts was being played by Sarah Polley until the end credits. It was a fun and inventive episode.
I liked how they were considering offering Jo Pitts a home at the end of the episode. Something "WAS" required for the smooth resolution of the situation. They could not allow such a broken hearted situation as putting Jo back out into the big bad world. So having Jo Pitts run away was a good solution to all problems. After all she was a free spirit.
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Re: 3.2 & 3.3: But When She Was Bad...She Was Horrid

Post by HistoryMiner » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:57 pm

The first part of this episode was quite funny, but the second part was too "out there". Jo Pitts character went too far, and was borderline psychotic.

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Post by janbo » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:19 am

It was my favorite episode when I was kid and when RTA first aired in my country ( we had all 7 seasons aired together in 1996 )...
I have always wished I had the same looking person so we can replace sometimes and do some crazy things... Jo Pits was funny and so were Hatty, Janet and Olivia trying to solve the problem :D
Now when I grow up ( Im 23 ),.. I cannot say its my favorite episode.. I think it was very unrealistic episode and story.. but still, I like it .. Sarah Polley did a great job... :)

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Re: 3.2 & 3.3: But When She Was Bad...She Was Horrid

Post by Marilla » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:18 pm

I love the interaction between Sara and Felix and Sara and Gus in these episodes and, for that reason, consider them to be in my top 10-20 episodes. I think the scene where Hetty walks into Sara's room and Felix is wearing the flowery hat is so cute. I thought ZB shined in these episodes and these were some of the first where I really started to like Felix. And I like how protective and big brother-y Gus is toward Sara. Very sweet.

However, I hate Jo Pitts. I hate the low, Tony Soprano-esque voice SP attempted for Jo. It sounded so forced and unrealistic to me. I thought these episodes would have been improved by condensing them into one, removing Jo Pitts, and just having Sara run away without leaving a look alike to cover for her (although then ZB and JB really wouldn't have had as many great moments as they did). Or, keep the look alike premise but tone down the horrible voice and accent.

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