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Felicity's Perfect Beau

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:22 am
by Brent
Just re-watched that episode last night. I'm not really a maor fan of Gus anyway (At least the later Gus. Early Gus was pretty good) but did it irritate anyone else that he (without warning) punches Arthur? Then when the fight is broken up, he accuses Arthur of fighting also!! What was the poor guy to do???
Poor behavior on the part of Gus Pike. His "problem" was really with Felicity, yet he chooses to assault Arthur, who had done nothing. He even goes to the King farm to attack him!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:05 am
by Timothy
There's usually nothing wrong with a good ol' fashioned rivalry. What I didn't like is that Arthur didn't do much to defend himself. I suppose this was because Arthur's pacifist character was created to conflict with his pro-military father... So this makes Gus look bad because he beat up someone unwilling to fight back.

I didn't think Arthur had that much time to respond. Gus asked something like, "Arthur Pettibone, what is yer intentions with Felicity?" Then before Arthur can hardly say anything... Bam! Pow! He gets punched by Gus. I wasn't sure why Gus asked the question if he already knew the answer.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:20 am
by Brent
I guess I'm old fashioned, but you really don't prove you're the better man by beating up the other guy--with a sucker-punch no less. Methinks Gus well knew Arthur was a pacifist and was probably suprised when he got up and actually fought back.
The "proper" way to have done the thing (if there IS a proper way) would have been for Gus to say "Put 'em up". At least poor Arthur would then have known what might be coming.
Should note that I now see another thread on this episode in another area. Sorry to bring up something not really "new"--but I haven't had the time to go through all the other threads and posts.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:04 pm
by 5AvonleaGirls
I'm not entirely sure that Gus's one intention was to beat Arthur up. I'm pretty sure that he went to get things cleared up about Felicity. It probably wasn't right for Gus to punch Arthur but if you ask me, Arthur was deserving of the beating.

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:26 am
by Brent
Deserving of a beating?? Why on earth for? He was trying to win Felicity's attention fair and square. He did nothing underhanded. Feliity and Gus weren't married, or engaged. He was working on the farm when Gus went all the way over there to attack him!! Not like they ran into each other on the streets of Tombstone.
That attack (if prosecuted) could have very well landed Gus in jail.
It was actually good to see Gus take a few shots in the scuffle that ensued!
And on top of that to suggest (when the fight was broken up) that Arthur was fighting too. What a lame statement! Did he expect Arthur would run away and cry?

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:50 am
by jam416
I agree that Gus was probably overreacting a little bit but something about Arthur's attitude bothered Gus (and me!) Gus worked hard and was trying to win Felicity. He was finally getting somewhere and in walks Arthur with his fancy dreams and telling Felicity she deserves better. I think Gus knew that Arthur probably thought of himself as the better man. I know I am giving Gus more slack but I personally think of him as the better man. Even though at times I don't like how he was portrayed....being devasted over Felicity when at times I just wanted to tell him she wasn't worth it. That's why I love the show where she pours out her heart to Gus when she thinks he can't hear her. She finally admits she was foolish! So the fight was dumb but I can understand Gus's point of view :)

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:37 am
by Brent
In retrospect it was probably all Felicity's fault. She could have easily at the very beginning told Arthur that she was 'Gus's girl" but she didn't. In fact she even led him to believe he HAD a chance. So we have Gus thinking he has Felicity all locked up and Felicity thinking quite something else. If Gus should have been angry with anyone, it should have been with her.
And I agree- Arthur wasn't Mr. Personality by any means, but I think he was sincere.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:55 am
by Marina
I`ve never really given much thought to this Felicity-Arthur thing... It was quite obvious that she loved Gus. She was just a young girl, any girl that age would be a bit confused by having two handsome guys fighting over her. I don`t think there`s anyone to be blamed in that situation.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:41 am
by Gwendolene
To be honest Arthur always struck me as something of a ninny and often kind of sleazy. Don't know why... but that was my gut reaction to a lot of the things Arthur did.

If my BF was behaving the way Felicity was around Arthur, I'd have dumped him!

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:53 pm
by 5AvonleaGirls
I don't think that Gus should have beaten Arthur up but I think that Arthur should have realized that Felicity was Gus' girl and stayed away. Also, I think most of it was Felicity's fault... she kind of was acting like a ninny. I don't care for Arthur when he is with Felicity but after he gets over her he is okay.

~5AvonleaGirls

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:10 pm
by hannikan
Marina wrote:I`ve never really given much thought to this Felicity-Arthur thing... It was quite obvious that she loved Gus. She was just a young girl, any girl that age would be a bit confused by having two handsome guys fighting over her. I don`t think there`s anyone to be blamed in that situation.
I agree with this. Plus Felicity really thought that Gus had eyes for Suzette Moreau and that prompted some of her behavior leading up to FPB. That said they all made big mistakes. I don't like Gus's behavior in this episode because he gets possessive of Felicity. ordering her to leave the Pettibones and expecting her to basically already act like his wife. I like that she gets angry about that and tells him he doesn't own her. Of course, the fact that she says that he'll only ever own his fishing boots was mean and hurts Gus. I also think Arthur replying to Gus's statement that Felicity was his girl with "she didn't act like it yesterday" was kind of asking for trouble. Not that it justified punching Arthur. He was rubbing it in Gus's face that Felicity seemed to have feelings for both of them. Which I think she did, just ultimately more so for Gus. Then Arthur acted like he was such a pacifist but of course he retaliated in full force.

Sara drove me crazy in this episode because she was far too preachy. Yes, Felicity was making some bad choices and got too puffed up with both boys admiring her at first but Sara was acting like Felicity was purposely trying to hurt Arthur and Gus and of course she wasn't. Plus, did supposedly 1st wave feminist Sara think that Felicity should marry Gus at 16 and toss aside all higher education potential she had? That doesn't seem like her to me. I guess she was thinking of younger Felicity who only wanted to get married first and have babies ASAP. Why was it okay for Gus to be possessive of Felicity in Sara's mind? I guess she didn't see him as being possessive in this episode but I did. I guess it also was to show that outsiders to those in a relationship, even those who are intimately close to those involved, don't know all that is going on. Sara didn't realize that Felicity really enjoyed Arthur's company and wasn't just spending time with him to make Gus jealous. I know Sara felt bad for Gus because she knew how much he cared for Felicity, but I just got annoyed with her acting so self righteous.

I do think we see the beginning of a shift in Felicity's priorities through her meeting Arthur. I think it is in meeting him that she realizes she is interested in more than just settling down in marriage at an early age. I think Arthur kind of represents the rest of the world outside Avonlea that she can explore before marriage. She meets him at a time when Gus is ready to settle into joining the King family, having a home and belonging to someone while she wants to be more independent, seeks adventure and life beyond Avonlea. Felicity and Gus love each other but they aren't really on the same page in terms of life goals at this point.

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:00 pm
by Marina
Great analysis hannikan!!! :)
And yes, Sara was so annoying in this episode! The point is that relationships are never easy to handle, especially at such an early age...so don`t judge so harsh!

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:49 pm
by hannikan
Thanks for the compliment, Marina. It's kind of sad how much I can analyze and ponder this TV show! It's always interesting to hear other ppl's perspectives on these things, too. Ppl can see things so differently! I think Felicity is a really complex character, well developed over time by the writers/actress and that makes her the most controversial character. Because she really was a brat when she was little and through the 3rd season but she changes a lot over the course of the show. It's a gradual process so it's believable to me. The rivalry with Gus and Arthur comes in the middle of that development, when she's started to think about other ppl's feelings but she's also becoming a more independent young woman, too. She's starting to challenge her ideas about what she wants out of life and what she can do.